I WILL TELL YOU #45: Playing With Numbers – Part 2

Last week, as you remember, I spoke of how DC had managed to publish both Action Comics and Detective Comics not only on a regular basis for over seven decades, but also managed to keep those titles’ numbering intact; until this month anyway. But then I also mentioned that DC had no shortage of ongoing titles that had sputtered through their existence over the years, and decided to pick on their Titans franchise to illustrate the point. And I also blamed that franchise for ushering in the preponderance of relaunches that have followed in the 30+ years hence. You can read all about that here.

Or to recap, the first Teen Titans began in 1966, went on hiatus in 1973 with issue #43, returned in 1976 with issue #44, and was canceled in 1978 with issue #53. New Teen Titans launched with a new #1 in 1980, rather than simply resume publication as Teen Titans with issue #54. The decision to rename and renumber the title was only the first of many such moves, which devoted Titans fans can probably recall all too clearly. Exactly what were the subsequent moves, you want to know?

I will tell you. Strap in.

New Teen Titans ran 40 issues under that moniker until it was renamed Tales of the Teen Titans in 1984. But this is not to be confused with the previous 1982 miniseries entitled Tales of the New Teen Titans, which ran a scheduled four issues, each spotlighting a different member of the team. DC also launched a second ongoing Titans title in 1984, also naming it The New Teen Titans, reusing the name of the other ongoing title that was just renamed four months earlier.

The second New Teen Titans series ran for 49 issues, until it was renamed The New Titans in 1988. I guess they grew up all of a sudden, but were somehow still “new”. Meanwhile, Tales of the (not New) Teen Titans ran another 18 issues with new stories, but with issue #59, the title began reprinting stories from The New Teen Titans; the second New Teen Titans series, not the first. These reprints continued until that title ceased publication in 1988, at issue #91.

Also, there was another ongoing series created in 1986 called Teen Titans Spotlight, which appropriately enough spotlighted individual members of the New Teen Titans, similar to Tales of the New Teen Titans. The 1982 mini, that is, again not to be confused with Tales of the Teen Titans, which was still running at the time. This title ran 21 issues, and ended in 1988, the same year New Teen Titans (the second version, not the first) was renamed. I think.

The New Titans continued all the way until 1996, when it was cancelled with issue #130. But the era was not without other related titles; a second title, Team Titans, was created in 1992, and ran for 24 issues until it ended in 1994. After the end of The New (no Teen) Titans run in ’96, another new series was created, which was simply named Teen Titans. Not The Teen Titans. No “The.” No “New.” Just Teen Titans. Guess they got young again, even if they finally weren’t “new” anymore. This series also ran 24 issues before it, too, ended, in 1999.

Pant pant pant. Water break.

Okay. DC then followed up with another Titans title in ’99 called, even more simply, The Titans. No “New.” No “Teen.” But the “The” was back, for fans who were nostalgic for it. In 1999, DC also published a Titans annual, but it was a collection of reprints from The Teen Titans. That is, the very first Teen Titans. You know, the first DC series that featured kid sidekicks teaming up in a comic with the word “Titans” in the title. Got it? Got it.

The (not New, not Teen) Titans ran for 50 issues, before that title called it a day in 2003. Then, also in 2003, DC began another title called Teen Titans. No “The” again. No “New” either. The exact same name as the title from 1996-1999, but with a new team, even though they weren’t called “new.” That same year, in an apparent concession that there were no more combinations of the words “New”, “Teen”, and “Titans” that hadn’t been used already, DC also began Teen Titans Go!, an anime version of the team based on the Cartoon Network series. Teen Titans Go! ran for five years, before it indeed went with issue #55 in 2008. But that same year gave us the birth of Tiny Titans, not new(born), and not (pre)teen. And that title actually continues to this very day. But Teen Titans, the newer Teen Titans, the one mentioned at the beginning of this paragraph and not to be confused with any of the other New Teen Titans, was the latest to fall, at issue #100, just last month.

And for the first time, the old Teen Titans, not to be confused with the original Teen Titans, has given away to a new Teen Titans title, again not to be confused with anything called New Teen Titans, with the launch of Teen Titans #1, last week. In other words, Teen Titans was cancelled and restarted as Teen Titans. That is a first.

There. I told you. Towel, please.

So is this it, then? Can we expect Teen Titans #1 to eventually lead directly to Teen Titans #100, or even #50? Or will this title, or any and all of DC other 51, be subject to countless stops and starts at some point? The current relaunch illustrates the possibility that such a relaunch can be a good thing if it brings in readers, but the multiple Titans titles over the years illustrates what happens if those readers can’t be otherwise kept. Playing with numbers might sound like a good idea, and sometimes it is, but it’s not a substitute for just telling good stories.


About Jim Johnson

Jim Johnson (@quigonjimm) will tell you! He got a chance to write for the big boys at CBR, so we don’t see him around the site as much as we used to. Check out his stuff anyway!


  1. I just wish there was something new to read about titans who aren’t quite adults yet.

  2. How’s Young Justice fit into all this then?!?

  3. Well, seems there is no Justice for the Young, as Superboy and Wonder Girl are totally brand new, and Impulse…well, he might not exist anymore….

  4. My head hurts!

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